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When Patrick Stickles Talks With Marc Maron, It's Fantastic!



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Do you know that stand up comedian and late night TV talk show regular Marc Maron has a podcast called WTF? And do you know he is a big fan of Titus Andronicus? I listen to him sometimes, but this episode of WTF with Patrick Stickles is simply epic. And not only Marc admits he is a big fan but he goes to see live music: he went to the same Titus Andronicus show than I did, at Eagle Rock Center for the Arts last September.

At the beginning of the podcast Marc Maron raves about this kick-ass band which gives ‘lots a momentum’! He is very passionate about Titus’ music, ‘I have no idea of what’s happening’… ‘there’s an anthemic drive to it, what is this?’ and is obviously very impressed by Stickles songwriting ‘whatever it is, he means it!’… ‘he is not trying to impress anybody’… ‘it’s the real thing’… ‘may be it’s a Jersey thing?’ In any case, what follows is a very interesting, deep, intense and brilliant conversation between Patrick Stickles and Marc Maron that you have to listen to if you are a fan!  And they go way beyond discussing about the raw energy of the shows or the passion behind the music. After listening to the entire podcast, all I can say is that Patrick Stickles is a very deep and intelligent man.

There are a few very interesting and funny moments as when Patrick admits he got into the Rolling Stones only recently because before he could not separate them from Led Zeppelin or Mötley Crüe!  And regarding the Doors being important? Patrick is not there yet. They also comment about the death of rock’ n’ roll, ‘When Keith Richards was young, guitars were the answers of everything, but it is not that way anymore’… ‘So many people were competing for the perfect rock song,… Now you get a computer.’ What? Patrick is not a fan of electronics? But his theory is that people, being not being confronted every day with this type of music, have forgotten its power, rock’ n’ roll is back at being a real counter culture… and I guess he thinks it is fantastic!

I really love what he has to say about the artist and the validation of art, ‘people see the artist presenting this feeling,… they recognize this feeling that they feel within themselves and they validate it’ and there is joy born from this validation ‘even it is about something painful’. He is a guy who has brilliant ideas about lots of things, like punk, ‘which is appealing to a lot of dickheads since it empowers them to do whatever they want’… he sees it as a perversion of punk, and ‘absolute freedom should create opportunities of freedom for others’. He passionately talks about what a moment on stage can create, the pursuit of doing ‘something beyond your reach’ and he talks at length of a person’s wiliness to try to climb that mountain and fail, but to keep trying… it’s amazing how he talks like my 11th grade literature teacher, and this is a compliment (he was a Camus fan).

They also talk about Patrick’s depression, the nervous breakdown he went through two years ago, and the different treatments (the big mistakes) he went through, ‘they turn the part of the brain which could be dangerous’… ‘they take your sexuality away from you, your ability to generate abstraction…who you are.’ Patrick says it was the worst thing he has ever experienced by far. ‘They killed the poet in me, they took away my ability to make the unique connections that I can make’. He admits he is now ‘off drugs that come from labs,’…’off the white man drugs.’ I guess we will now even more about what he went though when Titus Andronicus’ new album is out (November 2014 according to what he said), as it will be a 33-track rock opera about manic depression. Meanwhile, listen to him here.

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