JS::Hello
helenrocknyc :Hello!
Imancharif :hey
helenrocknyc :Thank you so much for meeting up with us
JS: Of course, how is everything going?
Imancharif :i got in trouble for blogging at work
helenrocknyc: win!
JS: haha
helenrocknyc Iman why not begin?
Imancharif : k -let me begin at the end -ive listened to the demos and you havent missed a step
JS: thanks
Imancharif :but -that friend of yours could really sing
JS: Thats actually Marissa from Screaming Females
Imancharif: she sounds great -i always like her stuff. so back to the start – I figure you were at college when you formed for science
JS: Yup, I was actually in boston at the time when we started, even though the band was based out of NJ
Imancharif:: i coulda sworn u meant nj fenway
helenrocknyc : Im glad you didnt
metallicasolos: nope, boston, when we started, i had just bought a guitar and had no plans of really doing a serious band
helenrocknyc: Now youre talking so was this just a group of college friends or did you have a past?
Imancharif :was the idea on revenge about writing really short songs?
JS: John (the singer) and I went to high school together originally it was my friend Ian on drums, who had also just bought drums, and our friend ryan reading on bass, who couldnt play bass. We mostly just thought it would be funny to get on shows, and then be really bad an obnoxious but in order to get on shows, we needed a demo of some sorts, and so we needed songs
Imancharif : were u thinking about song construction at that time? sounds like u were
JS: only a little bit
Imancharif : can i use an old Costello review quote: “im willing to concede he has been unlucky in love -you coincide?
JS: haha, at the time, yes. it depends when youre talking about..All of the songs i wrote on way out of control, and tomorrows just another day are about the same person
Imancharif: it is all, and ive written this a coupla times, a little another music in a different kitchen
JS: i hadnt yet met her when writing the stuff for revenge for hire, so most of those songs were based more off of ideas i had than actual experiences
Imancharif : John is a great singer…was your break up a little simon and garfunkle?
JS: haha, not at all, its actually a pretty unbelieveable story
helenrocknyc (cliffhanger….) and that is……..
JS: one night after a show, he took a bunch of acid with the people in that band pregnant, also friends of ours (ian was actually the original drummer and bass player of for science). we were supposed to go to the movies the following day, but when i called him, it turned out while on acid he quit his job, packed up all his belongings, and moved to new orleans all in about 12 hours
he called me from the road down there
helenrocknyc: well I have a new hero
JS: me too, haha it was almost the perfect ending to everything
Imancharif : and you were screwed to start again
helenrocknyc: appropriate you guys were amazing
JS: we played 1 show with our friend Jeff singing, and then john came back for a last show
helenrocknyc :last feb?
JS: yeah, it was funny cause everyone was wondering if he was actually going to show up or not
Imancharif: looking at stuff like “tara” while i consider you a punk rock band -actually you’re not
youre a pop band -a classic pop band
helenrocknyc with a tude
JS: i never really worried with defining ourselves, john or i would always just bring ideas for stuff to try out in songs and not worry about if it made sense or notso in that sense, i feel like we are very much a punk band
Imancharif : did you start don giovanni around this time?
JS: nope, i started Don Giovanni a few years earlier with my friend Zach to put out a 7″ by a different band we were both in at the time. Zach eventually joined for science after we graduated college, he plays bass on tomorrows just another day
Imancharif : so you formed the label just for a song and it took off from there?
JS: haha, yeah. there were so many awesome bands from our scene that couldnt find a good label to work with
Imancharif: were you friends with groucho marxists, pregmant -was there a NJ scene happening?
JS: we only put out bands from our scene to this
day very much so. Chris Pierce of the groucho marxists recorded just about everything on the label, including every For Science song. . He runs a recording studio called Technical Ecstacy. He is pretty much also the producer, but not credited as such
Imancharif : screaming females look ready to hit it big -how dya feel about your family growing up
JS: Its amazing! They deserve everything they get. They already have hit it big as far as im concerned
Imancharif : to be perfectly blunt you are a great songwriter -what do you want for yourself?
JS: haha. A Ph.D. probably not the answer you were expecting
Imancharif: good luck with that
JS: Yeah, I’m actually also in grad school right now
Imancharif : do you work on music full time -when I first knew Pete Holsapple of the dB’s he worked in a record store
JS: starting next year I’m going to be at Cornell in a Ph.D. program
Imancharif: holy crap!!! we’re gonna lose you
JS: Yup. Oh man, the dBs are one of my favorite bands
helenrocknyc: omg you give up music for the real world and Im going to off myself
JS: nah, don’t worry, ive been in school almost this whole time and still doing the label, bands etc.
Imancharif : your current band modern hut?
JS: I was in college for the majority of for science and the label, yeah. i am going to do some touring with modern hut this summer and playing some shows befor then, I am just trying to work on finishing up the album first
Imancharif: can i just say listening to “time” -the Modern Hut demo was such a blast
JS: Thanks, thats one of my favorite songs I’ve written to date. Its about as honest as I’ve been able to get lyrically speaking, haha
Imancharif: and “heart” which i didnt quite get on youtube i loved on the demo.
Ive noticed so much of your music happens in the backgroud, repeated handclaps -woo ooo ooos that kinda stuff
JS: Yeah, the songs evolved a lot. That video is almost a year old. And yeah, you can thank the ramones, the connie dungs, and the mcrackins for that stuff
Imancharif : not to mention the beach boys
JS: the beach boys yes, but the beach boys via the ramones, haha
Imancharif: one of my best friends went to cornell a coupla years ago -the football team were actually pretty good
JS: for an ivy team, they really arent that bad
Imancharif :who is the woman singing with you on modern hut
JS: on youtube, or in the demos?
JS: Thats one of my best friends, Chelsea Lacatena, she has such an amazing voice. The original plan was to do a band with her singing. Then it evolved into us playing acoustic shows like that together, we even recorded a few demos that way. Then it became what it is now.
Imancharif: and what is it now?
JS: What the demos are. A full band although its run more like a solo project, I am going to play live with different people every time
Imancharif : k… im gonna let you go in a coupla questions. ready? influences?
JS: influences, i could go on all day, haha. Prince, Vic Chesnutt, The McRackins, Connie Dungs, Iris Dement, John Prine, Drive-By Truckers
Imancharif : rip vic
JS: ugh, i know. he was one of the greatest living songwriters before he died. the whole story is so tragic. im lucky i got to see him a bunch before he died. I could talk about him all day. We could do a whole interview just about my thoughts on vic chesnutt, haha
Imancharif : a suicde -youve written about suicide right?
JS: haha, yes.
Imancharif: there’s a darkness that colors your music -definition of rock: happy songs about sad things
JS: I think death, sadness, suicide, all these concepts are things that john and I think about a lot
Imancharif: and the person you wrote the album and ep about?
JS: weve been together for 2 years now, we got together a little bit after the LP came out actually, so it ends up being a really nice story.
Imancharif : happy stories…!!!
JS: yeah, but don’t worry, it doesnt stop me from thinking about dark things and writing about them
Imancharif: will you be playing your old for science songs with modern hut. can i request “colorado”
JS: i’m not sure yet. If someone requests something, theyll probably get to hear it though.
helenrocknyc: Mercury Lounge? 4/24?
JS: but i also want to make sure people come to see and listen to Modern Hut for what it is, and not for what I used to be writing
Imancharif : thank you so much for your time Joe… if modern hut are plying please let us know
JS: even though i still feel very attached to the for science songs. starting a new band and breaking up a band is so hard. of course. id love to tell you about a few other bands to check out too
Imancharif : id appreciate it
JS: You need to hear this band called Byrds of Paradise. They’re brand new, from brooklyn, and are amazing. <
strong>Theyre playing the show on the 24th. The guy in the band who writes all the songs, Kenny Brown, is such an amazing songwriter. Mercury Lounge, the 24th of April that is
here is there myspace: http://www.myspace.com/byrdsofparadisenyc
Imancharif : I gotta tell you Joe, there are great songwriters and there are great songwriters… youve never written a song i havent loved
JS: that means a lot to me. Black Wine are also a really great band you should check out. myspace.com/blackwineband
helenrocknyc: Theyre on the 25th at the Mercury 2 night extravaganza
JS: yup, are you guys coming? I can put you on the guestlist for both nights
Imancharif :Thanks so much for taking the time to talk to us
helenrocknyc: Thank you so much for letting me stalk you
JS: thanks so much for everything you guys ahve been writing about for science and the label
i feel like i should be thanking you, haha
helenrocknyc thanks for restoring my faith in music
JS: stalk me all you want, just please don’t assasinate me 🙂
helenrocknyc: no promises
Imancharif all the best, please keep in touch and point us to stuff we’d like…
JS: of course. check out byrds of paradise, youll love the song rowena they just posted
And that’s our interview with one of the great songwriters around… A nice guy and a great pleasure to speak to…
The For Science story might be over but the Joe Steinhardt is just begining
