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Swans’ Michael Gira And Larkin Grimm: Another Case Of Rape Accusations In The Music Industry

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Gira and Grimm


The music business is filled with rape stories these days, and here is another one, which may not involve people as famous as Kesha, Lady Gaga and Dr. Luke, but which may demonstrate how common these stories are in the music industry? American singer songwriter Larkin Grimm took on her Facebook page to tell her story:

‘My story with Michael Gira is an absolute tragedy that I have kept secret for too long. I am only speaking of it now because after being accused of “lynching” Thomas, I cannot ethically keep Michael’s secret any longer. He’s a white guy, and his crime was far worse than what Thomas did to me or Margaret.’

Grimm collaborated with Swans’ Michael Gira for her album ‘Parplar’ in 2008:

‘I loved him more than I have loved just about anyone, but I did not want to have sex with him, and I made that very clear over and over,’ she continued, but one night, after some heavy drinking and a stay at his friends’ house, Gira raped her:

‘I crawled into bed without changing my clothes or brushing my teeth. I just passed out. A little later Michael woke me up coughing. He had bad asthma, and sleeping on the floor in the dust was aggravating it. I told him, slurred, half asleep, that he could sleep in the bed, just not to touch me. A little bit later I woke up with his penis inside me, no condom. As I opened my eyes, he said, “Uh, this doesn’t feel right.” and he pulled out.’

But this didn’t stop there: ‘I spent the next 6 months in a suicidal depression. Michael would call frequently to talk about the progress on my record and to talk dirty to me. He would tell me he loved me and that he would leave his wife for me. I would refuse to talk dirty to him and try to bring the conversation back to business. When we met, the interactions were often sexually charged and I would squirm out of them as best I could. We never had sex again although he tried over and over, making me absolutely miserable.’

When she confronted him, he dropped her from his label:

‘Many people have assumed, over the years, that Michael and I had a love affair, and in a way, for a time, maybe we did. But I never consented to having sex with him. I wouldn’t have wanted to ruin such an important opportunity that way. Technically, he raped me. It took me a long time to admit that to myself. Years. Michael Gira, my producer, raped me and dumped me from his label when I confronted him about it, needing to feel safe.’

Does this sound familiar? Sure! and Grimm makes herself the connection:

‘Sending my love to ‪#‎Kesha I know how you feel. At least I got out of my record deal, though I was never offered another one after that.’

Of course Gira has answered via his Facebook, denying all the accusations:

‘re horrible accusations from larkin grimm about me:

I am completely shocked myself. This is a slanderous lie. I will respond vigorously to defend my name against this horrible slur. I trust in the intelligence of those who have followed my work and respect me as a person, to know this is NOT the person I am. The rumor mill/”confessional” Facebook post travels like fire- but this one is lies. More soon.’

But to make things even more complicated in the usual she-said he-said way, Gira’s wife Jennifer took part in the action, defending her husband:

‘As you may know, Michael dropped Larkin, and she has been jilted about it ever since. Larkin may know in the past, Michael has shuddered and simply deleted her harassing emails/texts, rambling obsessive tomes, declarations of unrequited love, hate speech, and threats to him. but, guess what sweetheart!- his wife is well aware—-and his wife, is rather analytical, organized, -and doesn’t put up with any bullshit. I have PROOF, in Larkin’s own hand, that her allegations of Michael raping her *did not happen.* I REPEAT It is false. (Larkin-you should have been much more careful whom you emailed/messaged/purged/”reached out” to in “heartfelt” way, etc etc, or in letting yourself use a computer, during what seems to have been from the illiad of messages sent to my husband that are c-r-a-z-y -suffering from a manic/bipolar or chemical relapse episode)That is unfortunate-for you’

So who is lying? Gira’s wife says she has proof so I may learn sooner or later… but is it another case of a woman who has been abused by a man in the music industry or is it a woman using the ongoing rape stories and the current climate to get some sympathy and publicity? After all she does not forget to put a hashtag before dropping Kesha’s name, and she announced a show  just after this post. I don’t know enough about the situation and these people to pretend to know the truth, but not all rape accusations are true R.member a similar story about a woman who was accusing Conor Oberst of the worst? She was lying and there was not the slightest truth in what she was saying… But may be Gira is this horrible man who harasses his proteges. In any case, I still find astonishing that people continue to use Facebook to make the worst accusations, and at the time I am writing this, it is still going on, as Grimm has again responded to Gira’s post on her Facebook page! If it really happened, stop looking for compassion on Facebook, and sue the guy!

1 Comment

  1. David on April 17, 2016 at 8:46 am

    Not all rape cases are black and white. I am withholding judgment against M. Gira at this time, especially in light of another point of view of someone who also knows the accuser personally. Larkin may be trying to give her career a boost by presenting herself self-servingly as a victim.

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